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Stockholm · Jun 25, 2008, 05:22 PM // 17:22

The only thing that scares me with HoM and all these Titles, is that it will make sure that GW2 starts of with same crap we have now.

Lvl 8 ?? LFG, (no noobs without 10 GW1 titles)

Bryant Again · Jun 25, 2008, 05:23 PM // 17:23

It's been stated repeatedly that the benefits you recieve from the HoM will have no in-game effect, i.e. you'll receive only vanity bonuses.

Although, given what we've seen in GW1, that could very likely cause "elitist issues". Let's just hope they stay true to being able to solo the whole game and the sidekick system, aye?

Ctb · Jun 25, 2008, 05:40 PM // 17:40

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

Wow...apparently Whining wins out over Game Design integrity.

Way to go Anet -.-

Yea, what kind of nutty business practice is "giving your customers what they want"? Just absolutely crazy.

Go away.

Stockholm · Jun 25, 2008, 05:54 PM // 17:54

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

Wow...apparently Whining wins out over Game Design integrity.

Way to go Anet -.-

You should be used to that by now, it has been going on in the PvP section since day 1.

Or is that only "constructive criticism"?

Parson Brown · Jun 25, 2008, 05:54 PM // 17:54

I guess I'm happy about the account-based thing, but I sure wish i wouldn't have "wasted" parts of the last six months duplicating titles on multiple characters...

However, now that things like sweet tooth and party animal will (essentially) be account-based, maybe the prices of those supplies will come down?

EDIT - finished reading the OP...

AWESOME that you can continue to add to the HoM after starting GW2. But, That only makes sense as I was considering putting off actually BUYING GW2 until my HoM was suitably decked out. I'm sure they don't want people doing that!

WinterSnowblind · Jun 25, 2008, 06:02 PM // 18:02

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

Wow...apparently Whining wins out over Game Design integrity.

Way to go Anet -.-

Game design integrity? You act like the HoM was perfect the way it was. It was designed poorly, basically forcing players to focus entirely on one character, if anything this update reverts some of the previous design errors that were introduced in Eye of the North -- it lets us play with multiple characters again, without the fear of missing out on content when GW2 rolls around.

The fact there's people like you, who will whine about whatever Anet try and do to make the game better, just proves how flawed the community is.

quickmonty · Jun 25, 2008, 06:06 PM // 18:06

I've been working on just one character, trying to max titles and get other things to fill my HoM. Nice to know that all that effort will transfer to ALL my GW2 characters.

Clobimon · Jun 25, 2008, 06:24 PM // 18:24

All of the very little information regarding how the HoM will benefit GW2 characters has been very, very vague. There has been absolutely nothing set in stone about how it will work exactly either. It sounds as if they still don't know beyond 'the best idea.' This is one reason why I chose not to make a huge push to deck out many halls up to this point. Since GW2 is a long ways off yet and we were told that things could still be added after it goes live, I practiced patience. That is something it seems that some players haven't learned. We see it all the time, players trying to have it all as fast as possible and get burnt by changes that aren't completely unforseen. I have purposely not bought armors I won't wear, weapons I won't use, bought minis I don't have or even put up all that I do because we haven't been given the information. Anything that only costs money and materials can be put up the day before GW2 release - save for it! It won't make a bit of difference if you filled it yesterday or a year ago at that point. By planning wisely a person should be or should have been just trying to complete titles for their halls and not spending millions of plat on rare minis and whatnot. I'm sorry for those that spent all the gold that you got to fill halls. It's cool that you did it and now you have some beefy character halls in GW. To be harsh though, expecting a refund or reward because of it is rather silly. The information we had and still have does not indicate that we need to spend 10 million plat. If you did that it was because you were betting with a wager to have everything you can in GW2. You spent a million on lottery tickets and won the grand prize of 500k with your first ticket.

SirSausage · Jun 25, 2008, 06:29 PM // 18:29

Best dev update in 2008 (for now).
Anet has once again earned my respect and the last time they did was a looong time ago.

Now I'm curious about the rewards in GW2. *drools*

Chrono Re delle Ere · Jun 25, 2008, 07:08 PM // 19:08

HoM rank emote lmao.

RiceCream · Jun 25, 2008, 07:14 PM // 19:14

[email protected] items in HoM
[email protected] based. y'all complained too much qq cachooo

romeus petrus · Jun 25, 2008, 07:32 PM // 19:32

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Originally Posted by Stockholm

The only thing that scares me with HoM and all these Titles, is that it will make sure that GW2 starts of with same crap we have now.
Lvl 8 ?? LFG, (no noobs without 10 GW1 titles)

I am pretty sure Anet is not that dumb (or am I?). Titles you grind in GW should have no effect what so ever on GW2 or they will lose new players.

lyra_song · Jun 25, 2008, 07:39 PM // 19:39

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Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind

The fact there's people like you, who will whine about whatever Anet try and do to make the game better, just proves how flawed the community is.

Better is a relative term. Whats better for you might be worse for me.

Yes. The community is FLAWED. People have differing OPINIONS. What a shock!

I never had the problem with the original design, since I didn't care, but its true that it was flawed.

I don't really have a problem with the change itself. Its more streamline, albeit still flawed.

My problem is that they changed it based on people who have been whining in Sardelac that they are being punished for playing more characters.

Those kind of people present a flawed argument and augment it with whining. And Anet relents. Anet only did this to shut them up.

The design is still flawed.

The HOM system should not have been implemented as part of the storyline, and instead as a "private" centralized location like Guild Hall as part of the CORE design, allowing all players access via ALL their characters all at once as easily as changing characters without needing to unlock a new outpost.

Instead of rethinking the design to fix its true flaws, they will be patching it to quiet those who misunderstand the true flaws in the design. Its still rewarding you for GRINDING. The fact that people have accepted this does not make it good.

Its very short sighted and imo, Stupid.

captain_carter · Jun 25, 2008, 08:12 PM // 20:12

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Originally Posted by SpiritThief

Then make the rest account based, taking naturally the highest title rank out of all character for each title.

I hope not. That would certainly not be natural or logical.
That IMO would be the dumbest way to integrate titles that were character based to being account based. The values on each separate character should be added together to get the account total, the value you would have achieved if it had been that way from the start.

dark_prince2023 · Jun 25, 2008, 08:17 PM // 20:17

Simply Thank You And Where Is Guild Wars 2 I hate Waiting!!

Yawgmoth · Jun 25, 2008, 08:20 PM // 20:20

Outside of pure awesomeness of account-based rewarding GW1 accomplishments there's another great thing in this Dev Update:

The rewards in GW2 will be available to all your characters, not just one!

It means they may be actually designing GW2 in a way that doesn't discourage multi-character playstyles from the beginning! So you don't have to make decisions like selecting a favorite GW2 character to inherit your HoM goodness and then regret such a choice, something I really didn't like in the old announcements.

Account-based GW2 inheritance is an excellent decision - just as account-based GW1 rewarding is.
Bravo Anet.

Wulfgast · Jun 25, 2008, 08:39 PM // 20:39

A wise choice by Anet, but far, far too late. I quit playing this game months ago, along with everyone else I know IRL, largely because of the HoM blunder. There were other reasons of course, but that was a huge one.

The HoM should've been all this and more from the get-go.

However, to those of you that still play, I truly am glad you're getting a good update like this.

MithranArkanere · Jun 25, 2008, 08:41 PM // 20:41

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Originally Posted by Wulfgast

A wise choice by Anet, but far, far too late. I quit playing this game months ago, along with everyone else I know IRL, largely because of the HoM blunder. There were other reasons of course, but that was a huge one.

The HoM should've been all this and more from the get-go.

However, to those of you that still play, I truly am glad you're getting a good update like this.

Don't worry, as soon as I get plutonium, I'm giving this info and the gw.dat to ANet 3 years ago. And they'll make the game like this from the star.

Targren · Jun 25, 2008, 08:44 PM // 20:44

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Don't worry, as soon as I get plutonium, I'm giving this info and the gw.dat to ANet 3 years ago. And they'll make the game like this from the star.

Watch out for Libyans.

lyra_song · Jun 25, 2008, 08:45 PM // 20:45

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Don't worry, as soon as I get plutonium, I'm giving this info and the gw.dat to ANet 3 years ago. And they'll make the game like this from the star.

we could make a lightning farm to power the delorean.